This is episode number 273 with medical medium, Anthony William.
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Anthony William, New York Times bestselling author of Medical Medium,
Secrets Behind Chronic and Mystery Illnesses,
and How to Finally Heal,
was born with a unique ability to converse with the high-level spirit
who provides him with extraordinarily accurate health information that's often far ahead of its time.
Since the age of four, when he shocked his family by announcing that his symptom-free grandmother had lung cancer,
which medical testing soon confirmed, Anthony has been using his gifts to read,
or what he says, scam people's bodies to reveal conditions and tell them how to recover their health.
He has also become an invaluable resource to doctors who need help solving their most difficult cases.
His unprecedented accuracy and success rate as the medical medium have earned him the trust and love of hundreds of thousands worldwide,
among them movie stars, rock stars, billionaires, professional athletes, best-selling authors,
and countless other people from all walks of life who couldn't find a way to heal until he provided
them with insights from spirit. Anthony has devoted his life to helping people overcome
illness and disease. Nick and I are massive fans of Medical Medium and all his books. We've got
all of them. The recipes in there, we've read them all, his podcast. It is such invaluable
information, which is why I'm so excited to have him on the show today. Because in this episode,
we chat about what happened to him when he was four years old that changed his life forever.
We also talk about how the spirit of compassion gave him advanced medical healing powers,
how he got his tip on celery juice to cure so many different things, including back pain,
His unconventional training and how he scans people's bodies for illnesses.
Why after over 250,000 clients did he stop working one-on-one with people?
The things you must avoid for Epic Health.
The power of celery juice and why you need to add it to your life.
Why we have fruit fear and why we need to eat it.
The secret weapon foods to add into your life.
Why you have to eat fruit to make fruit.
I loved his take on this. The power of angels. Anthony talks a lot about praying to angels and
calling on your angels. And I absolutely loved hearing him share about this. But there is so
much more. And for everything that Anthony and I mentioned in today's episode, you can check out
in the show notes. And that's over at melissarambrosini.com forward slash 273. And before we dive into
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without further ado, let's bring on the one and only medical medium, Anthony William.
Anthony, welcome to the show. I'm so excited to have you here. But before we dive in,
can you tell us what you had for breakfast this morning?
That's a really good question.
Celery juice, 32 ounces.
That's what I had.
Then I cut open some oranges, some really amazing oranges.
And just, I don't know, I cut open like four or six oranges about an hour after that.
Then probably, I think it was a couple of hours after that, I decided to get a smoothie going.
So I did the heavy metal detox smoothie, threw the wild blueberries in there, threw the blueberry powder in there, the wild blueberry powder in there, the spirulina, the Vimergy spirulina, the Vimergy barley grass.
And just threw a banana in there.
I think I threw two in there that time.
They were big bananas.
And it was a small smoothie.
It was just a quick thing on the run.
And then the cilantro.
I did put a lot of cilantro in at that time.
I'm like, I have this really good cilantro.
So I really rigged it and put a whole bunch.
And then a few sprigs of dulse, or I call it sprigs,
or a few strips of dulse and blended it up.
And bam, it was great.
Oh, delicious.
Well, I had my lemon water.
Then about half an hour later, I had my celery juice.
And then about half an hour later, I had my heavy metal detox smoothie.
So we are like, I am vibing you.
right now so much. Yeah. You got me beat though, because I was out of lemons and didn't have the
lemon water this morning. I was so bummed out. Anyway. Well, I am so excited to have you here.
I'm such a fan of your work. My husband and I have been living by your protocols and reading
all of your books for the past year and we just love it. But for those that might not have heard
much about you, can you take us back to when you were four years old and tell us what happened to
you that changed your life forever. Yeah, it changed my life forever. And that's an
understatement in the sense where I really couldn't run from it. There was no way to run,
no way to hide from it. And it started out at age four, hearing a voice perfectly clear.
And that voice was the spirit of compassion. So that's what I was told. And that voice told me
what was going on with my grandmother, told me what was going on with everybody else around me,
as far as what was happening in their health.
And the sound from the voice isn't internally.
It's not like inside of me.
It's on the outside of my ear.
So it just couldn't be shut off.
It couldn't be turned off.
And I could block it.
I could partially block it with my hands
as if someone was talking to you.
It's as loud as when a best friend is talking to you
and or anyone is talking to you right there in front of you.
Their voice is projecting out of their mouth
and entering into your ear.
That's exactly how it is. So it wasn't this kind of controllable thing where voices come and go
inside your head or, you know, some messages that you're channeling or something has nothing to do
with that. And I wish it did because my life would have been so much easier. And that voice was just
giving me advanced medical information. So extremely advanced medical information ahead
of science and research. And I had no way of pushing it away or, or the whole thing. So
So basically the bottom line is, I mean, for example, what happened when I was in elementary school, and here I am, eight years old, and I have a classmate next to me, and Spirit of Compassion says, well, the classmate has meningitis.
And so I told the teacher, I got up, I told the teacher that my classmate had meningitis.
And the teacher then asked the student what was going on, you know, and how did the student get the meningitis?
And why isn't the mom here?
And all this, how come nobody knows about it?
And the child was confused and said, I don't even know what that word is.
He didn't even know what that word was or what that meant.
And I said, no, he has an infection.
He actually has an infection.
He has a pathogenic infection, and it's creating meningitis.
It's creating what is diagnosed as meningitis.
All this information was coming through.
And so she called in his parents, called in my parents,
and we had to hash the whole thing out.
The child was fine.
Nothing wrong with the child.
The child felt great.
No one heard of why.
No one even heard of any talk of such a thing in the moment.
And so the next day, he didn't come into school.
He was in the hospital with 105 temperature.
And there was just no way around it.
It was just there.
And the information was going to come through, whether I liked it or not.
And so I had to work with it.
And I wanted to be a normal child, but just, you know, there's no way, there was no way
around it.
And I had to just do the best I could.
That's basically just one of the many stories, one of the many things that happened that
I had to do.
And it continued all the time.
And I had to help people because of it.
So I would just, it would be people that my family knew.
It would be people that friends knew.
It would be people that was just always someone
that had something going on with their health.
Just like in 1975, I had to help a family member
with a really bad back problem
that would never go away with no answers for it.
And that's when the celery juice came through.
That's when the celery juice came through.
Spirit of Compassion said you have to juice celery.
So we took a beat-up blender, one of the really old ones back in the 70s, if you can imagine what kind of blender it might have been.
It was nothing like we have now, right?
And stuck celery in it and tried to grind it up, which was a difficult task on its own with that blender because I'll never forget it.
And then we strained it through a cheesecloth and made celery use to a family member.
And within hours, it was getting better.
And there was no, you know, it's funny is someone told me, I remember somebody was telling me, well, maybe it was a placebo effect or something.
No, the family member didn't believe on any level in celery juice or celery itself or anything like that.
I mean, it just, it wasn't even a question of even thinking that.
In fact, it was quite the opposite.
It was extremely skeptical on the celery juice.
And like, there's no way this is going to help.
Don't force me to drink this stuff.
But it was improving the condition
and improving days.
And days later, the back was like,
it was like a miracle occurred.
And so, and this is kind of like just, you know,
part of how many things, it's just like,
I've always said this,
it's been like being a stock boy in a grocery store,
small grocery store at 12, 13, 14 years old.
And people would be pushing their carriages around
and I would be doing readings on them at that age.
And I was building up my first clientele at that age.
And so because there's no way to escape it,
I had to live with it
or meaning living without it meant not being here.
So that meant, and going through the age of teens,
it being really difficult for every teenager,
I was really at a crossroads where,
look, I don't know if I can stay here and do this
and not live a life that I want to live
and I want to do and I want to dream about.
I don't want to make my entire life
about healing the suffering and healing the struggling
and having to have advanced information.
When I was seven, eight, nine years old,
I was spouting out all how viruses worked,
different varieties of viruses
and different undiscovered viruses and pathogens
and toxic heavy metals.
This was a bizarre phenomenon to anyone that even heard it.
It was just, what are you talking about?
And different conditions and diseases
and how science research has fallen flat on chronic illness
and how women have suffered when they really didn't have to
because the system was set up in a way that disempowered them.
Like all this information was coming through nonstop.
And that's not even the information of when I had to do training
where, and you know, someone might say training.
What do you mean?
What did you train?
What did you do?
What school did you go?
No, I didn't train.
I don't have a health coaching degree.
I'm not a doctor.
I never went to medical school.
I'm not a nutritionist.
I'm not any of that.
I've never said I was.
And you know, what's funny is the training I had to have was literally hard knocks.
It was people struggling and suffering, knowing what was wrong with them and what they had to do in order to heal.
and when I was 10, 11, 12 years old,
Spirit of Compassion said,
you're going into the cemetery
and you're gonna go into the cemetery every day
and you're gonna tell me
how you think people died
and I'm gonna also help you and give you information.
I was literally doing readings
on people that have died and gone
and they're in their graves
and it was like, okay,
this person died of a heart attack.
This person died of a tragic accident.
This person died of, you know, a blood clot.
This person died of this.
And it was like that.
And, you know, it was never, there was nothing easy about it, nothing easy about my life on that level.
And I've had to go through so much with Spirit of Compassion so I can help people.
And that helped me do, what happened was like the training in the cemeteries,
which sounds so, I guess, so just scary.
That was because Spirit of Compassion said,
well, you can hear what I have to say,
but I want you to be in touch even more than that.
I want you to be in touch even more than that.
I want you to be able to call some shots
that you see that I can give you this opportunity
to work with you like this.
So it would be people that were alive,
people that were past,
meaning like in a cemetery when they were past, of course,
and then people that were alive,
where spirit would give me this opportunity
to see in the body.
Because what happened was spirit gives me the information
and I hear it, but spirit sends down light
at the same time.
And that light, I have to push through people.
You know, it's funny.
Many people have said to me,
why do you wave your hands around their head?
Or why do you wave your hands around their body?
And it's because I never explain the process.
You know, I never tell anybody really the process
because it's not about it all about being me,
me, me, me.
Oh, it's all about me, me, me, the medical medium.
It's never about that.
It's about the people who are struggling, suffering,
and then I do my technique, so to speak,
but I never explained it
because it should never be about me.
It shouldn't.
It should be about the person who's in need,
person who's struggling, person who's suffering,
and what I can do for them.
And what happens is the reason why I wave my hands
around someone like that. As I'm listening to spirit, it's because spirit's sending down light
and I'm going blind. I'm just seeing all white light and I push the light around. And as I push
that light around, it acts as almost like an MRI, an imaging scan, where I push that light through
the person. I'm pushing the light literally through the person. And that's what I'm doing.
But I never even really explained it. It's funny how things work.
was like, you know, and so the thing is, is it's always been about, it's always been about
helping people with what Spirit of Compassion has done to me. I say done to me because basically
saying, no, you're not going to have the life you want. You're not going to have, you're not going
to have the life, you know, you're not going to be able to do what you want to do. Spirit of
Compassion told me people are going to become sicker than you've ever, ever can imagine,
sicker than anyone has ever seen in history.
I remember 40 years ago
hearing that from Spirit of Compassion.
There's going to be more people sick
with no answers from science and research
than ever before in history coming up.
And now I hear it from Spirit,
and Spirit was right.
And now I hear it from Spirit of Compassion
where you just wait 10 more years.
And that's why these answers have to be here.
10 more years and it's going to be far worse than it was in this last 2030. And everyone has a
symptom and it's going to have a symptom. I mean, even influencers and social media, it's not going
to be like it was where you're taking selfies of your vacations and you're talking about different
things and talking about fashion and talking about it. It's going to be about your symptoms.
Every single influencer in person on social media is going to be talking about their symptoms,
whatever that might be coming up in the next five years, six years, seven years. I mean,
I've helped out individually over 250,000 individuals. I worked 24 seven. I never slept.
And I was robbed of a lot of life of my own. People say to me, well, hey, how come you're
not working out in the gym all the time and exercising? How come you're not big buff and
all this stuff? Like, dude, I've been on call 24 hours a day for decades for the suffering and
chronically ill. I never focused on self-care. I never focused on, oh, okay, let me go into the
sauna. Okay, wait, let me go into this. Let me do yoga for an hour and a half every day. Let me go
into the gym for another hour and a half a day. And I worked on 30 to 50 people a day, had a 24
hour hotline and barely slept. My assistant woke me up through the night every night. There wasn't
a night I ever slept all the way through ever when I was working with people. And this is the
life that I've had to live. And am I okay with it? Yeah, I'm okay with it. It's still not pretty.
It doesn't come with the glory of anybody who would think it would come with. No, there's
haters and there's critics. Critics are different than haters. Critics are actually amazing people.
Critics are people that say, is this something I should try? Let me try it. Let me read his book.
And that's a critic.
That's why I love critics,
because they go in skeptical and they say,
let me read his book.
And then they read the volumes of medical information
that's advanced and never before seen.
And because it's above research and science
and it's above all the trends
because it comes from spirit of compassion.
It comes from, it's not man-made.
It's not man-made.
All the trends are man-made.
Men-made.
Not women-made.
Men-made when it comes down to the health realm.
That's something you understand,
especially if you're a woman.
And it's like, okay, you know, it's important to know how these trends are tricky and how they're designed.
It's not that men are tricky.
It's just that it's not like these trends that we've had to adopt and that are coming from research and science.
They're actually man-made.
And there's something to be concerned about that because when we're talking about the body attacking itself and the body destroying itself,
and that's what women are told every day.
Women were told it was all hormones in 1945 and 1950.
They were told it was all in their head
that they were crazy.
That was by the man-made rules.
And now they're told,
has your body's attacking itself in 1952, 1953, 54,
the theory of your body attacking self-autoimmune,
which is all not true.
And now they're being told it's all genes
by man-made science research
that's actually tainted, corrupt, and thumb on the scale.
So Spirit of Compassion has always told me we have to always think about the struggling and the suffering and the ones that have been kicked down in trouble.
Now, I want to talk about disempowerment in a little while.
I haven't let you talk yet, but the thing is the Spirit's with me right now.
That's why.
And Spirit's telling me, well, you know, you want people to hear the message of what can help them.
And this is part of it, of knowing where this comes from.
What happened was the waiting list got into the millions by 2014 and 2015.
So I had to stop working with people.
And I had to get the books out.
Spirit of Compassion said you have to get the books out.
You have to get that information out.
And it's critical that it gets to people because chronic illness is rising so fast right now.
It's just unbelievable to the degree that it's rising.
And when someone says, well, no, I'm not chronically ill.
I'm not in my bed dying.
I'm like, wait a minute.
No, no, no, no.
I'm talking about migraines.
I'm talking about headaches.
I'm talking about aches and pains.
I'm talking about sinus congestion that won't go away ever.
I'm talking about tingles and numbness, spasms, tremors, twitches.
I'm talking about heart palpitations.
I'm talking about fatigue.
I'm talking about limb weakness.
I'm talking about all these things you keep on going and going and going.
and I'm talking about Hashimoto's and hypothyroid,
hyperthyroid, diabetes, prediabetes, hypoglycemia.
I'm talking about everything.
And they're like, wait a minute, you're right.
That's chronic illness.
Wait, everybody has something wrong with them.
Everybody's dealing with something.
And we're supposed to pretend it's normal now.
Endometriosis, every woman's now getting endometriosis,
fibromyalgia, fibroids.
They're getting PCOS.
They're getting all kinds of different conditions,
gut problems, bloating, digestive problems,
Crohn's, colitis, celiac, everybody's.
So wait a minute, is it acid reflux?
We're supposed to actually think
this is supposed to be normal now.
See, we're being tricked again.
I remember I did a lecture many years ago
and I opened up that lecture with,
everybody was opening the lectures with,
I was at a place, everybody was opening lectures with like,
hey, it's great to be here.
We're gonna talk about this great food
and all this other stuff.
and it was really uplifting.
And I, of course, I'm like a downer.
I was up there and I started to lecture with,
we're being tricked.
We're being duped.
The wool's been pulled over our eyes.
We've been totally pushed aside,
swept under the carpet.
And all these things.
And people are like, what is he talking about?
And what I was talking about was chronic illness
to where it is, how we're being told
that our body's destroying itself at this point
by research and science,
but precious research in science
that everybody seems to protect like so crazily.
Meanwhile, it's all theories
and it's all geared to just basically shame women
and body shame them.
And all this stuff is going on.
And it's about truth.
And somebody says, well, I know that's not,
I know my truth.
I'll be like, look, I'm not talking about my truth.
I'm not talking about Anthony Williams' truth.
I'm talking about up there.
I'm talking about up there, that truth.
I'm talking about the truth I hear the voice from.
I'm talking about spirit of compassion, that truth.
It's not my own belief system or my truth or anything.
My truth probably wouldn't even be right.
My personal opinions or my personal belief system that I want to adopt about something
like how I'm drinking my herbal tea and the way I'm drinking it, it doesn't even mean it's right.
But spirit of compassion is right.
And that truth is what I've had to listen to and say, okay, let's move Anthony.
Williams' opinion aside, let's move his belief aside and let's move his feelings aside and let's
just get spirit of compassion's information, get that truth out there so people have a chance to
heal. Because when you're going to doctor, to doctor and doctor, I've worked with a lot of
doctors and I work with a lot of doctors now, amazing people because doctors are incredible.
Doctors, practitioners, people that heal, they're incredible because they actually have compassion
for the people. They're in it because they want somebody better. And when people have been to
doctors and doctors, when their appointments are about doctors only, it's not about fun things,
not like for facials and other things and all kinds of cool things that would be great. And
it's not about vacations and this and that. When people's lives are based upon doctor appointment
after doctor appointment after doctor appointment, they've been to 20 neurologists and they're like,
oh my God, I think I'm dying. And there's really no answers. And when people go through that,
that's what it's about. It's what truth can I bring to make sure that I get people to rise
out of the ashes and just out of the depths of darkness and despair and hopelessness
and bring them to that place where you better believe you really can heal and not have to buy
the BS, that science and research has basically shoved down people's throats, which is your body
attacking itself and destroying itself and your genes being faulty and bad because apparently
science believes that our genes all went bad in the last 10 years. Pretty interesting, I have to say.
And then, you know, it's like, no, the freedom ticket, okay? Getting out of the chains of chronic
illness is about medical medium information and always has. And anybody who's a critic,
I've always said, because critics are the best, because once you get a critic to read that book
and say, okay, I've read Liver Rescue. I've read Thyroid Healing. I know more now about
Epstein-Barr virus than ever has ever been known in history. And they read Liver Rescue and Thyroid
healing, they read Medical Meeting Book One, and they say, you know what? I know a lot of people
suffering, and you're right. Science and research hasn't fixed everybody. They haven't. And being a
critic when you're not really sick yet, just have a symptom or two, and you haven't experienced
sickness, you can be less open to it. But until you have like a real symptom, something really
holding you back, and then you wake up and you realize science and research doesn't have the
answers? They don't. How do they? 250 million people are suffering and struggling and suffering
and struggling with symptoms right now in the U.S. alone. I'm not talking about Australia. I'm not
talking about the UK. I'm not talking about anywhere else. And it's because the answers
aren't out there. Let's be open. Alternative medicine, let's be open. Let's not be, you know,
alternative medicine is in denial. And they think science research has answers. It's incredible.
Never mind conventional science.
Never mind conventional medicine.
It's both of them that are actually not helping out that great.
They got things to offer without a doubt.
I'm not tearing into that.
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out. Now let's get back to the conversation. I have 45 million questions for you. This is just,
thank you so much for sharing that. When Spirit of Compassion first came whispering in your ear,
were you afraid? Were you scared? Were you confused? Were you like, what is going on?
Did you have someone that guided you and mentored you?
No, there was nobody to guide me or mentor me. I was in it alone. My mentor
I was very lucky in one way because my mentor was spirit of compassion. And I was scared,
but that was my mentor. And because it wasn't like the voice comes and goes,
I'll give you a little bit of information now, scare the crap out of you and make you afraid.
And then I disappear. And then you're lost for a week before you hear it again. It wasn't like
that. It was just always there, always there. So being always there, that was my mentor.
And at least I had that. I mean, I can't complain, really.
Yeah. Yeah. Wow. So he taught you how to scan bodies. Talk us through this process. I know
you mentioned it a little bit before. I'm curious, could you do a scan on me or does it require
like a lot of time and energy? How does it work? Well, I mean, a scan on you already happened.
So that already happened. There's no way around it. If people are around me, it just comes through.
Spirit tells me everything going on. So if I'm around a crowd, if I'm somewhere else or whatever
it is, it just comes through. It's not like I can shut it off, turn it on when I want. It doesn't
happen. So it just, it's already happened when we were talking. What came through? Can you share
anything? It wouldn't be fair. I used to, I used to share it all the time and it just wouldn't be
fair to the amount of people that are suffering and struggling. There's so many people out there
that are just, I mean, just people laying in their beds with the worst problems. They got Vegas nerve
problems and they're, they can't, they got high anxiety. They can't even climb into a car.
they can't drive, they can't work. And knowing that I'm doing a reading for you, it's just not
fair. I've had to come to that level of understanding. Of course, I totally understand
and I respect that. And you have huge celebrities like Miranda Kerr, Pharrell Williams, like
Sylvester Stallone, Robert De Niro. You have celebrities and CEOs and New York Times best
authors from all around the world praising you and your work. So can you tell us, I want to give
the listeners things that they can do. What are some of the life-changing foods that we all need
to start implementing into our diet? Well, one thing is what to take out of the diet
and without being so constricting either, what to take out of the diet. And it's not a guessing
game with spirit of compassion. So it's not about, you know, you're taking out this because
somebody thinks this is bad. You're taking out this because science research believes this might
not be good about it. It's not a belief system. So the foods that spirit of compassion wants out
of somebody's diet, it's about what's going on with them. It's about what's happening.
For example, eggs. Eggs are actually pathogen feeders. You know, they feed bugs. And so when
people are dealing with one of the over 60 varieties of Epstein-Barr. Because Epstein-Barr
just isn't one variety. It's not one virus. It's over 60 varieties. And they have different
appetites. And they cause different problems. And some people get more severe chronic fatigue.
Some people get just plain old fibromyalgia from Epstein-Barr. Some people get Hashimoto's.
But the whole point is, for example, Epstein-Barr or even shingles or HHV-6 or HHV-1 or 2 or
or cytomegalovirus, HH, simplex one, simplex two, like I said, or anything else, you know,
the undiscovered HHVs and so many different mutations, they feed on something. They have
to eat. It was, you know, when I look at it now, I say spirit of compassion, you just blow me away
because it's incredible information. When you're younger, you're just like, ah, just, you get numb
to it. I remember being, you know, 12, 13 years old, spirit to spirit's telling me all this
information than when you get older and you can really appreciate it more. And you can see how
incredible the information is because the reason why I say, which is Spirit of Compassion is really
saying you need to take the eggs out of your diet is because those eggs were raised in labs 80, 90
years ago to feed viruses that somehow escaped the labs and got into everybody in the human race
and now is torturing everybody.
And that taking eggs out, it was so critical
because that's what fed,
was feeding the viruses to begin with
as they were raised in labs by science and research.
And so, and Spirit of Compassion always says,
well, science research doesn't want to come out of denial.
They want to keep on telling women
their body's attacking itself and not release the truth
because the truth will just incriminate them
because they're the ones that raised these bugs
and released them.
And that's advanced information from Spirit of Compassion.
I heard that 35, 40 years ago, 35 years ago.
Because viruses eat.
And science research don't want you to know viruses eat.
They don't want you to know that.
I mean, I can't tell you how many different people
in the field of medicine said,
well, viruses don't eat.
I'd be like, well, how do you know?
Because you were told that by science research
they don't eat because they eat.
every single living, living microorganism on this planet has to eat something or it won't survive.
Sorry to break the news. And that's what I said to these professionals. Sorry to break the news
to you. And they're like, you're right. You're right. It makes total sense. And so eggs have
to come out. And unless it's the only food you got, I mean, listen, if you're somebody in Australia
and you got a chicken coop and you got organic eggs, I mean, of course, they're organic because
they're your own and you're not going to be, you know, you're not going to be feeding them,
you know, some kind of really highly pesticide, you know, ridden grain or something or whatever
it is that you're going to give them. Maybe you have no choice and you have to. Even so,
if you got your own eggs and that's the way you survive, then I'm all for it. Then let's see if
we can keep out a couple of other things.
Let's see if we can keep out maybe something else.
And I was going to, you know,
but I'm all for it if it's the only way you can survive.
And I respect that.
And then maybe we can do things like
trying to go after the viruses
that are giving you symptoms in a different way.
And so, but eggs are critical to get out of your system
because if you don't have a system,
if you don't have a symptom, that's another story.
Let's just say if you don't have a symptom,
yeah, eggs won't be a problem.
That's what's really funny.
Someone said, well, hey, it's a belief system
he's talking about.
No, no, no.
If you don't have symptoms,
if you're not really viral or bacterial,
you're not dealing with all this acne
because acne is caused by streptococcus,
that's actually medical medium information
going all the way back
and originated from spirit of compassion.
It has no source other than that out there.
But streptococcus is why we have acne, cystic acne.
It's not hormones.
It's not anything else.
It's just you could get acne during your menstrual cycle because 80% of your immune system for
a woman actually drops down because it goes right to the reproductive system so that life
can move on on the planet to protect the most precious resource there is.
So that's why women's immune systems fluctuate constantly between menstrual cycles and ovulation.
So they'll get the acne between it all.
Puberty is another example.
That's when our immune systems drop for both men and women during puberty.
our immune systems just basically crash. And we're all zinc deficient on the planet,
so we can't keep our immune system strong. So we end up getting cystic acne, which is called strep,
basically, which is caused by streptococcus bacteria and the different many groups of
strep and how many people carry it around and spread it around in general. And they're
antibiotic resistant for the most part. They always stay in the system, so you can't kill
it off completely. So you end up getting acne again or you end up getting something else again.
And but the whole point here is that when it comes down to what to eat, what to not eat,
if you're not dealing with streptococcus causing you acne, then you could eat some eggs.
If you're not dealing with any kind of high anxiety or any kind of different aches and
pains and neck pain, back pain, tingles, numbness, trigeminal neuralgia, fibromyalgia, anything,
neuropathy, anything that people deal with, then maybe you can eat some eggs.
See, it's not about a belief system.
It's about, no, this is about knowing the truth about what you should do or not to make
sure you get better.
And it doesn't come from me.
And it doesn't come from an article I read.
And it doesn't come from a book I read.
And it doesn't come from, it comes from up there.
And if you read the medical meeting books, you're not reading my information.
You're not reading my information at all.
I mean, I wish it was mine.
I wish I can take the credit for once.
And I can't.
But it comes from up there.
And the same thing with gluten.
Nobody knew what gluten did or why.
Spirit of Compassion is the only one
that knew what gluten did.
Everybody has guesses and theories
to why gluten causes problems,
why that protein causes an allergenic response,
why people have issues with it,
how celiac works.
That's all hypothetically,
that's all theories.
And there's no definitives
in any of chronic illness
and medicine in that level.
And gluten actually causes problems
because it feeds the bugs.
And that's medical medium information.
meaning that spirit of compassion's information
is that gluten actually feeds bugs.
And it feeds, and that's how it works.
And same thing with dairy products.
Dairy products, everybody was like,
well, you're lactose intolerant.
Well, what do you mean lactose intolerant?
How's it even possible for science to prove that?
There's not even a test that truly proves it.
Science and research can't go inside your body
and all of a sudden get a reading
onto what's going on inside your intestinal tract
or anywhere else in your system
and determine that you're really lactose intolerant?
That's actually not even possible.
That was actually a theory.
But we take these theories and we treat them like law
and then we pass them around
and then they become infectious and that's it.
But here's what it really is.
The dairy, the proteins and the lactose in dairy
feed pathogens.
So they actually feed bugs.
The gluten feeds bugs.
That's why we get sick or part of why we get sick.
You have to have the bugs to begin with.
We have to be feeding them.
And people can eat their whole life these things.
And if they don't have any bugs in them,
I mean, I've talked to people.
I remember like 20 years ago, 30 years ago,
talking to people that are 80 years old, 85 years old.
They're like, I'm eating bread all I want.
I've never had a problem.
I don't have anything wrong with me.
And of course, you know, when they're 94 years old,
they'll drop dead of a heart attack or something.
But we don't have too many of those around anymore.
Everybody's getting the bugs,
and they're all getting problems.
They're all getting the toxic heavy metals,
and they're all feeding the bugs.
And, you know, so, but there used to be.
I'll never forget.
I've been doing this for so long,
even though people think I started yesterday or something.
And I've been doing this so long.
And I remember people in, like, 85 years old,
and they could eat all the eggs they want.
And I wouldn't take their eggs away from them
in a million years because they didn't have the bugs that fed off the eggs. But now it's not like
that. If you got PCOS and you're a woman, if you eat eggs, you feed the very virus that causes PCOS.
And if you got fibroids, you feed the very virus that causes fibroids. And it's sad when we're all
hung up on protein, whether we're vegans or we're paleo or whether we're high protein or not. And
it's so sad because that protein thing gets us in trouble because the first thing, recommendation
you get as a young woman with PCOS is you better eat more eggs and get more protein and stay away
from fruit or something. It's disastrous. I actually call it tragic. It's just going to
speed up the process for more problems with the illness. It's just going to cause more problems.
It's just going to cause more harm. And it's not any doctor's fault. It's not any doctor's fault.
doctors are amazing people. We have life-saving medicine. I know a lot of doctors. I know
surgeons. And we have amazing, amazing people in the world doing incredible things. It's not about
that. It's about let's just not be in denial about what medical research and science has to offer
with chronic illness, which is virtually nothing. And let's learn about these troublemaker foods.
I call troublemaker foods in my books. And if you're a skeptic or you're a critic or a hater,
just read the books, read the books.
And just understand that when you read the books,
understand what you're actually reading
because that information isn't because it was done before.
If you heard something in the books
that you think came from somewhere else,
it came from me first before it came to somewhere else
as far as what's in those books.
When you read those books,
that information came from Spirit of Compassion
and it came from Spirit of Compassion
many years ago. And so the bottom line is, is that what's the first thing to do to your question
originally? You want to get out some of the bad foods, you know, troublemaker foods are calm,
because they're not really bad, you know, bad foods. It's the troublemaker foods. And you could
read about it in my books about troublemaker foods. And what do you need to do? You got to
get celery juice in there. Celery juice starts killing off pathogens. It starts destroying them.
the sodium cluster salt starts ripping them apart.
Hey, science and research didn't discover it yet,
but who cares?
Because guess what?
There's over 200, 300 million people
globally drinking celery juice right now,
and they're killing off pathogens,
and they're getting their lives back.
And that celery juice, the sodium cluster salt's in there,
a subgroup of sodium undiscovered by research and science,
actually goes to the brain, and it doesn't just help.
It's not just an electrolyte.
It's a complete electrolyte.
It's not just one partial electrolyte.
The sodium cluster salts are complete electrolytes.
They get to the brain.
They restore neurotransmitter chemicals.
They help the neurons.
They help rebuild neurons.
They help loosen up toxic heavy metals
that saturate neurons that cause people's anxiety
and depression and Alzheimer's and memory loss
and all kinds of other stuff.
And yeah, it's advanced information, but it works.
And don't add anything into your cell.
I'm going to throw out any tidbits I can
for any new listeners or anybody who doesn't know me
or does or not, don't add things into your celery juice.
This is a prime example of what goes wrong
when you have something so precious come from up above
and it's supposed to be like it is plain celery juice.
And people add lemon into it, collagen in it, God forbid.
They add other things into it.
They add water into it, ice cubes.
And they'll just add things into it.
They'll dilute the sodium cluster salt.
And you know what's sad is, if you're an influencer, you know, like you are, Melissa, you're an influencer.
I mean, it's a powerful thing to be an influencer.
It's a big deal.
And when you're an influencer, and you then tell 10,000 people that are following you, because they look up to you, and you're like, oh, no, I put lemon in my celery juice every day.
And you don't read the books, and you don't know anything really about that.
It's just then it robs somebody's chance.
So you get this one girl or one boy
that's sitting somewhere
with some serious symptoms developing
and they're getting really viral
and they got like Epstein-Barr and shingles
and their mom and dad's taking them to doctor after doctor
and they can't do college anymore.
They can't start their lives.
They can't go out and live their life.
And then they here put lemon in it
and they're not getting the results they get.
Then they might shy away and not drink the celery juice.
And we just lost one more person
to the hell that people go through on the internet
looking for advanced, so-called advanced alternative medicine stuff and this and that
and all kinds of articles and ideas that are all out there.
It's a hush-push of noise that developed over the years.
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Now, let's get back to this conversation.
I want to talk about fruit fear.
You talk a lot about this.
I definitely in the past had fruit fear. And now after reading all of your books,
I eat so much organic fruit and I just love it. And I can't believe I denied myself
it for so long because it's like nature's candy. It's just so beautiful and I feel incredible. And
I live in a tropical climate and right now it's very warm. So we've got the mangoes and the
papayas and all these beautiful fruits. So can you talk about fruit fear? What are the benefits
of fruit and what it's doing to us to cut fruit out? Well, no one ate any fruit. No one eats any
fruit. So people just don't experience the benefits because they don't eat fruit. I mean,
if you think an apple once a month is eating fruit, then I'm just perplexed. And that's the
whole thing is fruit has been shunned. And as if it's a problem.
Because of the sugar.
Sugar. Because of, yeah, that's unbelievable. Our cells only, we only stay alive because of sugar.
And we actually will die without sugar. Literally die. We'll lose our brain function,
our brains will shrink, our glial cells won't even function. It's sugar that keeps,
That's the whole point.
That's how, why do you think people suffer with diabetes?
They can't get the sugar into their cells.
It's the only way we can sustain life
is sugar has to enter a cell to keep it alive.
It's what our neurological systems actually feed off of.
And when you see another example of this,
of misinformation, and you're just like,
how are we ever going to get,
you know, I wake up in the morning,
I'm like at five o'clock in the morning and get up,
and I'm talking to spirit instantly,
right when I wake up.
And I say, how are we going to do this? How are we, how are we going to actually like really save
people when there's so much noise, like fruit's bad, when there's not even a single claim out of
any of that that has any substantiality at all on it? Like, and, and I'd be like, spirit, just,
spirit of compassion, just remind me a little bit of what fruit does. And spirit of compassion says
It saves lives.
It's antiviral.
It's antibacterial.
Science and research doesn't look at fruit.
They don't care about fruit.
Do you think they really,
do you think big pharma wants you better?
Everybody is smart enough to know that.
And they don't want you better.
It's got phytochemical compounds,
undiscovered antioxidants.
And that's what keeps us,
it keeps us going.
Because we oxidize, our tissue dies.
It literally dies and oxidizes.
That's how we age.
We just age and die, you know?
And there's a running joke.
I have a doctor friend of mine,
and he's like, you know, you push yourself
and work yourself so hard,
you better be eating some fruit.
And you better, I mean,
he says, you've been pushing yourself.
You haven't slept in 30 years.
You've been taking care of people.
You're writing these books, which is not easy
because when I write these books, I'm not online,
like looking up all these things online
so I could put it in my book.
I mean, when I'm writing the books,
I'm not writing the books.
I'm listening to Spirit of Compassion.
I got my eyes closed, basically, half closed.
I'm trying to listen, and then I'm writing word for word
from Spirit of Compassion into the book itself.
And that's what I'm doing.
And so, you know, the whole thing about fruit
is the minerals and all the phytochemical compounds,
the antioxidants and everything.
And I remember this doctor saying,
you better be eating a lot of fruit.
and it reminds me, even though spirit reminds me all the time, it's good to hear it from
a friend or so, because the glucose, we need it for our brain function. That's how a diabetic
goes into a coma. That's how the whole diabetic coma, that's how when people are hypoglycemic
and they literally start shutting down and can't function if they're just hypoglycemic
because they can't get sugar in their cells because something's blocking it like fat is
blocking it or something else is blocking it in the bloodstream. And fats in the bloodstream and
so forth, and they can't get it in, and they're getting insulin resistance all the time. They
can't even get sugar. And sugar's not to blame. Sure, corn syrup is not good. It's horrifying.
It's a million reasons why. It's just one thing. And yeah, you don't want processed table sugar.
And you're not supposed to be chunking down dehydrated raw sugar all the time and eating
raw sugar. You're not supposed to be doing that. It's not really meant for that to happen like
that. But a piece of fruit isn't just sugar. It's got some of that glucose in there, but it's got
the antioxidants, it's got phytochemical compounds, the antivirals, the antifungals, the antibacterials,
the anti-everything. And it's life-saving. It's lifelong. That's longevity. If I hear one more
time, this is hilarious. It makes me laugh. One more time about longevity and whatever about
longevity. And fruit's not in the mix. It's just an embarrassment because if you don't know
why these precious jewels have grown for us, the wild blueberries on the vines,
why they're here, why the raspberries are here, why all these incredible fruits are here,
how hydrating they are, how incredible they are, how they help with infertility, how they help for
for the, it's the fruit,
what it can do for the reproductive system,
keeping it so it doesn't dehydrate.
I see people going around,
women are going around
doing coffee drinks all day long,
and then they eat like some chicken at night
and some vegetables
and coffee drinks all day long.
And they're not getting any,
any antioxidants to the reproductive system.
They're just, they're gonna age before their time
like I've seen so many before.
and it's like nothing changes.
It's crazy.
It's like, and guys too,
it's just age before their time
until their PSA is just out of control
and everything else
until they just dropped out of a heart attack.
It's like aging before your time
because fruit wasn't even in the mix.
It wasn't even in the picture in people's lives.
And if fruit's behind everybody's sickness,
condition, disease, and everything else,
that's a really interesting claim
because no one eats fruit.
What, a strawberry shortcake?
a strawberry and a blueberry muffin,
apples here and there,
some kind of fruit dish.
I don't know what people are talking about
because over the years,
nobody ate any fruit.
I've talked to 250,000 individuals alone,
never mind all the millions of people
the books have reached and everything.
People really didn't eat fruit
and they're sick.
They're really sick.
And fruit's one thing.
Leafy greens is the other.
And basically the bottom line is
is that between fruits and leafy greens,
you got two of those secret weapons right there.
And you bring in herbs.
Now you bring in herbs like cilantro
and you bring in herbs like celery juice.
And someone might say,
hey, Anthony, William,
everybody knew about cilantro all this time.
I go, wait a minute.
Cilantro doesn't take out toxic heavy metals on its own so good.
It needs help.
That's why the medical medium heavy metal detox movie
that I had this morning
and that you're drinking,
it has five things in it that have to work together
because metal can fall.
It can fall.
That's information from Spirit of Compassion.
See, people think,
oh, what does he know about metals or whatnot?
First of all, the whole talk about toxic heavy metals
being in us and how they feed pathogens and everything else,
really it birthed itself from the whole thing
of Spirit of Compassion saying that toxic heavy metals
feed bugs and the desire of me having to basically trying to get people the metals out of them.
And that's where really it just spurred on for all the thousands of people. I said, no,
those metals have to come out of you. And when people then say, well, okay, let's talk about
metals because Anthony Williams talking about metals. Corella is the way to get metals out.
actually it's disastrous. Corella is that irresponsible, not the person recommending
Corella. That person's not irresponsible. The person just doesn't know. The person's trying
to be responsible. But Corella itself is irresponsible because if it does dislodge
a little bit of metal, it drops it right away. It moves it and drops it a little bit over.
and so cilantro could possibly drop it too
but it needs something else.
So the heavy metal detox smoothie
has the cilantro in it, the dulse in it,
the barley grass juice powder,
it has the Vimer's E spirulina
and it has the things that you need in there
and the wild blueberries
and they all work together
in making sure they dislodge something,
carry it all the way to the end
until it leaves the body
and that's spirit of compassion's information
about getting metals out of us.
So back to the whole fruit thing.
It's critical because frozen wild blueberries
or if you get fresh wild blueberries
or any kind of wild blueberry,
that fruit can literally help truly dislodge
toxic heavy metals, restore damaged tissue
because of its antioxidants that are undiscovered
by research and science,
help along with the spirulina and the cilantro
and other things to pull out of the body.
And then when you're doing something like celery juice,
another powerful herb,
It's another ticket out of chronic illness to help flush it out and then bind onto it,
disarm it.
So back to fruit.
Fruit's just one saving grace.
Another saving grace is those leafy greens, which the mineral salts and everything else,
the different mineral salts that are in leafy greens, different trace minerals and different
things.
And then you got herbs like cilantro and you got celery juice and so forth.
It's like these saving graces are huge to get people better.
And then when you take away,
you take away foods that feed pathogens
and you really get those out.
Someone might say,
I did medical medium reframation.
It didn't help me,
but they've been eating eggs like once every two weeks.
So it's not going to cut it.
The minute you start moving forward,
yeah, you can set yourself back.
Bringing eggs again, you can set yourself back
because it takes a little time to weed these things out
because these pathogens sit inside of our liver.
and they cause nothing but trouble.
We get stagnant, sluggish livers.
We get the heart palpitations because of it.
We get the high cholesterol.
We get the high blood pressure because of it.
We get all kinds of different issues along the way
because our livers get so stagnant, sluggish.
But back to fruit, it's truly, truly disheartening and sad
when it's basically ripped away from us
because of misinformation out there.
Misinformation, I remember when it first started
where fruit was bad.
That came from, once again, men.
Men trying to stop women.
Men in the health field that were all into
fruit's bad for you, fruit's bad for you,
it's sugar, it's sugar, and it robbed women
of a chance to actually heal throughout the years.
Because I know so many women that have said,
thank God I've actually brought fruit into my life
because it literally has turned my life around.
I've been suffering, I've had the worst problems,
I've gone to every doctor and literally by bringing fruit back in and eliminating a few
things that I was told was good for me, it changed everything with my fibroids.
It changed everything with polyps.
It changed everything with cysts.
It changed everything with these things.
And I was being told by who in the end, like some rumor that turned into a trend that fruit's
bad and sugar's bad that started.
And so, yeah, it's crazy.
The fruit thing is just crazy.
It is so crazy.
And I love that you say you've got to eat fruit to make fruit.
Can you talk about that a little bit?
Well, that means that's basically a reproductive system
because that's what you're producing basically is a fruit.
You're talking about the womb.
You're talking about it being a flower.
And then what happens?
The flower gets pollinated.
and then you produce a fruit.
There's a lot of similarities on how Earth works,
planet Earth works.
There's a lot of similarities
to how life just keeps on renewing here.
The fruit plays that role.
It wasn't here on this planet so we can avoid it.
You know, cranberries growing on bushes
and currants growing on bushes
and raspberries, blackberries, blueberries, and apples.
ancient apples growing across the land and all the fruits.
There were sweet fruits back then thousands of years ago.
There's always been sweet fruit.
I love, love how the anti-fruit people are like,
well, no, there was no sweet fruit back then.
Oh, you were back then?
Oh, you were there?
You were there 10,000 years ago?
You know there was not a sweet fruit around?
There's reports.
There's reports.
People a few hundred years ago in England, there's sweet apples on trees.
I mean, there's no fruit.
Okay, so it just comes from there.
There was no sweet fruit, I guess, going all the way back, possibly.
And it's just the arguments are all weak to why you shouldn't eat fruit.
You can really pick them apart.
I've had somebody say, well, you know what?
I'd love to get a piece of Anthony William.
I'd love to get a piece of him and tell him a thing or two about fruit.
And I remember this one person, I said, okay, talk to me.
I want to hear about it.
What's going on?
And they were rambling off on how it was so bad for you.
And I was like, look, look, look at this.
Check this out.
And I went through it, you know, all of it.
This person, they're like, you know what?
I got to be open to it because I didn't even think about all those things.
And, you know, so, but that's, we just get thrown into that.
It's just sad.
But, you know, look, it doesn't mean you should be living off of fruit
and that's the only thing you should eat.
I never told anybody they should be a fruitarian.
I never told anybody they should be a fruitarian.
We're just fruit and fruit alone and only fruit.
And I always said,
if there are times when we have to use fruit to heal,
when you get food poisoning
and you get all kinds of other problems, absolutely.
I mean, I've seen people come out of the depths of darkness
with papaya alone, using papaya
and then bringing in the celery juice
to actually make the balance
until they can start eating more foods.
I've used them therapeutically to save lives.
I remember years ago, a child that couldn't eat anything
but banana was the only thing the child could eat
or the child literally couldn't eat a thing.
And the doctors are finally like,
okay, put him on banana.
And he went on banana and it saved his life.
I've seen what fruit can do.
And if we rob people of even being open to it, because it's an instant shutdown, like no fruit, then how are we going to get PCOS better?
How are we going to get fibroids better?
How are we going to get fertility issues?
How are we going to get all kinds of different conditions?
How are we going to get antivirals and antibacterials in us?
Because they come from fruits, and they come from leafy greens, and they come from other things, but fruits are so important.
And herbs, too.
But that's some of the fruit talk.
but I can go on for hours about fruit. I totally agree. Is there a specific number
that you recommend people should eat each day or is it just whatever your body feels?
Look, I mean, the bottom line is it all depends. I would go to Life Changing Foods. I would go to
my book, Medical Meeting, Life Changing Foods and get some really good ideas, especially in
fertility. Read the fertility chapter. That's something interesting that could be really
helpful for so many people. But in general, how much fruit is, it depends. If you don't eat any
at all, then just bring in some to start with because people are afraid too. If they haven't
eaten any, then they get afraid. And so bring in a little bit at a time. Take two baby steps.
I've been saying baby steps for years for people for a reason because we get stuck in belief systems.
we get scared to death. And I have to take that into account of what someone's feeling emotionally
and mentally and everything and where they're at in their life. But one banana can scare
somebody, scare the dickens out of somebody, one banana. So you just take a little bit of time.
If you're someone that likes fruit and you always did because you had some before and you're like,
whoa, these strawberries are amazing. Whoa, these bananas are incredible. Wow,
this smoothie tastes good, then bring in more. Beautiful. I've got a couple more questions for
you if you have the time. Yeah, I have the time. I'm here. Oh, beautiful. I love that you also
talk about angels and the archangels and that we should pray to them. So for someone who's
listening who has never prayed to an archangel or even spoken to one, where should they start
and why should they start?
Well, if you read Medical Medium Book One,
you'll learn a lot of things about angels.
That was information that was given to me
from Spirit of Compassion.
And they're angels that aren't even the archangels.
And that's what's amazing.
So a whole bunch of different varieties of angels
that are out there that I've been told
by Spirit of Compassion exist.
And angels are incredible
because the angel of mercy is an angel
that I've called upon to help people throughout the years,
people that are really suffering and struggling,
because there's peace that can be obtained
from asking the angelic realm for help.
And I always say, ask out loud.
Ask out loud.
That's what I've always said.
You know, and if you can't ask out loud,
and the angels will know you can't.
If you're too sick to even ask out loud or whisper it,
then it's another story.
But I've always said, just, you know,
speak out loud and ask for the angelic help.
ask for angels to help. I've always seen it be helpful. And I always recommend and tell people
to just always do that. And if you want to learn more about the medical medium, book one has so
much angel information. So great. Yeah, it is great. And I absolutely love it. As young as
possible, we get this information into people's hands, the better. Well, the problem is that
even in all the alternative medicine and the information that's out there and everything,
the belief is still your body attacks itself
causing autoimmune.
So it's, how do we get away from that?
I mean, the only books that have ever spoke
that it's not that theory and it's some other truth
has been the medical medium book.
So even if there's a great healthy book out there,
they still believe either personally
or their practitioners that they're best friends with
believe it or the book itself is geared around it, that your body destroys itself, that your body's
immune system attacks its glands, creates an autoantibody and destroys its glands, in which
none of that is true or been proven, not even proved. That information came out in 1950s.
I mean, how did they know what was going on in 1950? They did, and they still keep that same
old theory. So every woman is disempowered and told that their body's destroying itself
and told that their body's immune system
is attacking itself by alternative and conventional.
It's all the same.
It's all the same.
It's almost like you're doing different things,
but it's the same boss.
It's the same mob boss,
but you're doing different things.
Somebody might be into this therapy
and this alternative book,
but yet the belief above it is always like,
well, wait a minute, autoimmune is your immune system
going after its glands and organs or skin,
like eczema and psoriasis and destroying it.
And there's no cure.
There's no true understanding of it, whatever.
It's just your body's attacking itself.
So when we're in that zone, there's no freedom.
There's really not a lot of freedom.
And that's the problem.
And men are sick too now.
It wasn't just women.
Now we got men that are sick with this
and they're being told they have autoimmune disease.
And so it's affecting men.
It's with children and men and it's disastrous.
So if, and genes too, you can like pick up an alternative medicine book and it looks pretty good.
It's got some cute recipes in it and it's talking about some great things.
And all of a sudden, you know, they still believe genes is why you're sick as a woman or a man.
And they still believe your body's attacking, destroying itself or better, worse yet, they believe you're creating and manifesting it.
So try telling a 19-year-old who's, as a happy woman or a happy young man, and try to tell them that the reason why they're sick and the doctors don't have answers and their body's attacking itself or they have symptoms because they're manifesting, they're not manifesting their best selves or they're creating it with their thoughts or whatever it is.
That's really a disaster.
That's happening now too.
So when you deal with that,
so where do you find a book
that doesn't have little bits and pieces of poison in it
that still hold people back?
I don't know, I don't know.
I mean, I know there's great books out there.
I do all this stuff.
I'm just saying, I always tell people,
that's a great book, but try to discern,
try to discern what's going on and everything.
But look, I love a lot of books.
I love the work you do.
I love the work other people do.
I love the work that's out there.
It's just, what I'm saying is that
how do we not let something bad in the door?
And meaning something really, really disempowering
in the door, like basically saying,
yeah, your body's destroying itself.
You're not gonna heal.
And the hopelessness that comes with that.
I have moms that tell me all the time, I came back from the doctor's office with my 16-year-old
daughter and 17-year-old son, and they both have thyroid problems. And they went to the internet
right when they got home and they looked it up and their body was destroying itself, they said.
And one of them had a meltdown. You could not believe one of the children had a meltdown. You
could not believe saying, well, how am I going to live my life when my body's immune system is
destroying itself. It was epic. It was epic disaster, like tragic. It took so much emotional
counseling, the mom told me, by so many professionals to try to get those children
to just get above water. And when I heard that, I said, something's got to change. So I'm a little
more cautious to what I recommend now. I can't just jump real quick into that question and be
like, oh, recommend this book and that book and this book. Because what if it has either you
created it by making it all in your, it's all in your head and you just, you, you did it with your
bad thoughts or what if your body's attacking itself? So I just don't know where to go. I,
I want authors to just start opening the door to maybe it's not what 1952, 1953 science research
theory was, or maybe it's not, it's all in your head because no one had answers. Some people
believe you manifest your illness now because no one had answers, you know, anyway. Like,
what if it's something else? I just want authors to be more open. That's all I'm trying to say.
Yes. Thank you. Thank you for sharing. It's so, you know, it's happened to me and it's happened
to my husband where a doctor says one thing and the dark spiral that you go into, it is
not helpful at all. So I can totally relate. I know exactly what you're talking about. And
it's very helpless. You feel helpless when you get the diagnosis that your body's attacking
itself. Okay, well, cool. What am I meant to do with that? So I can totally relate.
It's like, look, even Lyme disease, it was always considered bacterial. So at least people
had an answer. You know, it was like the reason why Lyme disease was so relieving to know that
it was bacterial was because you felt like you had an answer. Everybody had all these aches and
pains and all these problems and all these neurological symptoms and all this. And then,
you know, they were told, wait a minute, it's Lyme disease, it's this bacteria. And everybody
was like, I knew I had something wrong with me. This is over the years, decades ago. I knew I had
something wrong with me. And because the industry wasn't correct and it wasn't bacterial in the end,
and now the medical medium information has pushed the industry to have to stick it in autoimmune
because now they under everybody's noses, they took Lyme disease and they put neurological Lyme
in the autoimmune category now. They put it there. But the problem is with putting it there
is it means they didn't know it was wrong with people
and it wasn't bacterial.
So the industry, big pharma's actually admitting,
meaning all the sciences,
alternative and conventional is admitting
that they might have been wrong about it being bacterial.
And it's kind of, it's catch 22.
It means, oh no, if it wasn't bacterial,
then what was wrong?
Now it's my body attacking itself, it's autoimmune.
And the medical medium information has always said it's viral
because the viruses create neurotoxins.
Neurotoxins damage the nerves
and that's why you get neurological Lyme symptoms.
And bacteria doesn't cause that.
Bacteria cannot create a neurotoxin.
It just can't create a neurotoxin.
It can't create the tingles, the numbness,
the weak limbs, the severe fatigue,
the floaters in the eyes and all these other things.
And Borrelia and Bartonella and Babesia,
they're not superbugs.
Superbugs are MRSA and MRSA die with antibiotics.
I have so many people I've known that come to me and been like, oh my God, I got MRSA.
And yeah, it took a couple of rounds of antibiotics, but we nailed it.
It was gone.
We got rid of it.
I'm better.
Some people say it's just one round of antibiotics and MRSA went away.
And MRSA is a superbug and it's antibiotic resistant.
And Borrelia and Bartonella, they're not superbugs.
They're not that antibiotic resistant.
They're not superbugs.
And they're not at all.
They kill easy with antibiotics.
so it was never bacteria to why people were suffering with all the different symptoms and
conditions they were suffering with neurological symptoms and conditions that people lost their
lives with antibiotics they i my god i've talked to so many different doctors too over the years
people have lost their lives doing antibiotic treatments with lyme for the last 35 years
and and it was never bacteria that's why antibiotics you know was a way for the industry
to make money because when you had to diagnose it as bacterial in order to make money because
the only treatment they had, Big Pharma, they had in the 70s and the 80s was antibiotics.
They didn't have any other treatment or any other viable solution, so they had to push
the antibiotic theory, and meaning that the bacterial theory and the antibiotics on them.
and then the Lyme labs had to create inflammation tests
where they can plug in the name of the bacteria,
but yet they're not seeing bacteria.
I know because I talked to lab technicians
and what it is, it's like C-reactive protein
or an ANA, antinuclear antigen test, or a PSA.
And it's like, it's literally an inflammatory test
is what the Lyme tests are.
And it confuses everybody and no one realizes it.
And then they plug in the name of the bacteria
next to the level of the inflammation.
So then someone thinks they have Borrelia in them.
They don't even have Borrelia in them.
It was always viral.
It's how the industry has been.
Now they put, because of medical medium books,
millions of books getting around the world
and into doctor's offices,
and so many people healing of Lyme disease
over the years from the medical medium information,
now they put Lyme disease in the autoimmune category,
which blames their body now.
So now they're not being blamed that it's bacterial.
Now Lyme disease is your body attacking itself,
which really means the industry doesn't know
what it is anymore and it's viral now.
And that's what it means.
It means it's actually viral.
And the industry doesn't know it's viral.
The industry just sticks it in autoimmune.
And so everybody thinks the body's attacking itself.
Everybody thinks, but it leads it to a place now
where, okay, now we're more lost in a way
than we were before.
At least people, even though it wasn't working
when it was said it was bacterial,
at least when they were told it was a bacteria,
they actually had some relief
knowing there was something wrong with them
back in the 80s and 90s and 2000s.
Now, it's like everybody's lost.
Lyme disease suffers.
They can't get the relief they need and the whole bit.
And so what happens is the bottom line is there is relief.
You can heal.
It is viral.
Doctors are actually treating it like it's viral in many cases
because of the medical medium books and information.
and so the bottom line is though,
it was pushed into that category of autoimmune
where the body's attacking itself and the whole bit.
But anyway, I mean, it's more about Lyme disease.
You can just, you know, you can go to the books
and you'll learn more and more about Lyme disease
and how it works and you do have a chance to heal with Lyme
because it's not your body attacking itself.
It's not and there really is a real reason
that doesn't require, you know, so much what beats viral
and it doesn't require what people went through before.
But I think I ran you out of time.
Yeah, yes, yes, yes.
Thank you so much for that.
This has been so incredible.
And I have one more question for you.
I want to know what I personally and the listeners can do to serve you.
You serve so many.
You and Spirit are giving so much to the world with the books and everything that you do.
So how can we give back to you and Spirit?
try to keep that compassion in your heart
like you already are.
And if you're somebody that feels good,
if you're somebody that feels good,
you're not dealing with too many other things,
not dealing with a lot,
always try to see what it's,
always try to picture what it's like in their shoes,
the people that are struggling and suffering,
and try to get in touch with that a little bit
because there's so many people that don't have,
they lose so many different things
that they want to do in their life
and everything else and they have to,
I mean, it's really about helping others
and being open to it.
And that's a big deal all on its own
is to know that people are struggling and suffering
and that, you know, be open to that,
be open to what they're going through.
And what that does is it helps your soul
in so many ways by helping others in this way.
And then healing can really happen
because then all of a sudden you'll be like,
wait a minute, there's this,
look, you'll want to help out more
and maybe help somebody, maybe they'll be more receptive
and they'll feel the compassion and be more receptive
to the information you're giving them.
And there's this communication occurring.
So many people have been through so much.
They kind of shut themselves down
and they kind of shut themselves out
because they've been to so many doctors and practitioners
and their family members are tired of hearing
about all the doctor's appointments
and the different pains and aches and pains that they have
and the different symptoms.
and so many people, what I mean is emotionally,
mentally, and physically been through so much
with their illness.
Keep that in mind if you're somebody
that feels pretty good or feels great
and always keep that in mind.
I always find that what it means is you got their back.
You know what I mean?
You believe in them and you know they've struggled
and you know their symptoms are real
and you know they've been through a lot.
That alone is powerful.
I always tell people, try to do that.
And anybody who's suffering out there, struggling or have symptoms or anything, just know that I got your back and that I stand behind you 100% and I believe in you.
And I want you to do the same if you can for the other people out there.
Beautiful.
We will definitely do that.
It makes such a difference.
Just knowing someone believes in you, knowing someone has got your back, knowing someone believes that you can do it is so powerful and makes such a difference, especially on this healing journey.
So thank you so much for not only sharing today with us, but for all the incredible
work that you and Spirit do.
I am so grateful.
I'm so glad I stumbled across your work.
I mean, how can you not?
It's everywhere.
So thank you so much for all the books and the podcast and everything that you do and
for sharing with us today.
I'm so grateful we've been able to have this time together.
Well, bless your heart.
It's an honor to be here.
And yeah, it's an amazing time.
Thank you, everybody, for listening.
So glad I was here today.
Wasn't that amazing?
Holy moly, guys.
That was so epic.
And I just wanted to let you know that before we started recording, we were chatting.
And then also after we stopped recording, we were chatting.
And he is so genuine, so kind.
He truly wants to help.
He is truly of service.
And I'm so grateful that you guys got to hear his wisdom today.
He also shared with me that he very, very rarely does podcast interviews.
He said he does like one a year.
And he chose to come on this show because he loves what we're all about here.
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